but the entire congregation is not to be informed or mark the person.
the only repercussions are that the individual who is aware of it can decide to "mark" them and not go to the local club or bar with the individual, but they are still obligated to go door to door in the ministry with them, and even speak to them at the kn as if nothing is wrong and not feel obligated to tell anyone else?
this is crazy.. so they are also basically saying that a person can carry on a romantic (but none sexual) relationship with an unbeliever and still go out in service and participate in meetings?
The ulterior motive behind the Borg not wanting its members to not date/marry non jws is,,, the Borg needs the craziness us vs. them mentality to continue. And the like-mindednes to resume.
Its always loyalty,loyalty & unity ,unity & unity & the donations$$$$ keep rolling in.
They cant have any diversions.
Any jw breaking the mold is dealt with the threat of being kicked out or labelled as "bad".
here is the spanish edition of the 2024-08-august watchtower if anybody wants it.. .
https://pdfhost.io/v/gleqyxbh._w2408s .
grandpa!.
Thanks always Atlantis!!
from reddit.. a summary of changes: .
we are all sinners, so we have to be reasonable how we punish sinners.
if elders and congregation do not quickly help someone come to be reinstated they would be imitating satan the devil, not jehovah (yes that actually is what is said in the tagalog version in translation!
I can speak from experience & as a homeowner.
Weeds,,,are a forever problem. They always come back. Notorious.
i was born in 1964, so, i was 10 when the buildup to 1975 was happening (and watched the subsequent failure of that).then, when i was a teenager, i got to see the fallour of the big apostacy events in the 1980s.during all of this, i was told by my parents and by people of my parents' peer group that "this old system won't last much longer, and won't the new system be great!
"it is now 2024. i am going to be 60 years old in a few months.
over half a century.my mom died two months after her 80th birthday last year, after suffering for years of chronic poor health (some of it brought on by a very sedentary lifestyle, but also plagued by emotional and mental issues and family drama which did not help overall.
""Its easier to fool people rather than to convince them they've been fooled.""
Mark Twain.
That's why they hang on.
i was born in 1964, so, i was 10 when the buildup to 1975 was happening (and watched the subsequent failure of that).then, when i was a teenager, i got to see the fallour of the big apostacy events in the 1980s.during all of this, i was told by my parents and by people of my parents' peer group that "this old system won't last much longer, and won't the new system be great!
"it is now 2024. i am going to be 60 years old in a few months.
over half a century.my mom died two months after her 80th birthday last year, after suffering for years of chronic poor health (some of it brought on by a very sedentary lifestyle, but also plagued by emotional and mental issues and family drama which did not help overall.
I quit;
I think we can just chalk this up to;;;
"""" the sunk cost fallacy"""
😏
from reddit.. a summary of changes: .
we are all sinners, so we have to be reasonable how we punish sinners.
if elders and congregation do not quickly help someone come to be reinstated they would be imitating satan the devil, not jehovah (yes that actually is what is said in the tagalog version in translation!
.....probably apostasy or heresy is at top of the list.
from reddit.. a summary of changes: .
we are all sinners, so we have to be reasonable how we punish sinners.
if elders and congregation do not quickly help someone come to be reinstated they would be imitating satan the devil, not jehovah (yes that actually is what is said in the tagalog version in translation!
Yes. They hate apostates.
If it weren't for the laws of the land,,,I believe jws could take it personally,, take matters into their own hands & do atrocious & evil things to apostates.
i was born in 1964, so, i was 10 when the buildup to 1975 was happening (and watched the subsequent failure of that).then, when i was a teenager, i got to see the fallour of the big apostacy events in the 1980s.during all of this, i was told by my parents and by people of my parents' peer group that "this old system won't last much longer, and won't the new system be great!
"it is now 2024. i am going to be 60 years old in a few months.
over half a century.my mom died two months after her 80th birthday last year, after suffering for years of chronic poor health (some of it brought on by a very sedentary lifestyle, but also plagued by emotional and mental issues and family drama which did not help overall.
The Borg imposes itself between families with their demands like shunning & dfing.
A simple infraction,, you could lose your friends and family.
Some small things in life like these,,,many Jws dont have due to the Borgs,horrible, nefarious policies.
from reddit.. a summary of changes: .
we are all sinners, so we have to be reasonable how we punish sinners.
if elders and congregation do not quickly help someone come to be reinstated they would be imitating satan the devil, not jehovah (yes that actually is what is said in the tagalog version in translation!
Jojo;
We always see the Borg bend,bend, bend & bend when there's even a hint of $$$$ problems or legal issues,,,,
...then a 6 or 7 year old is imposed on with high demands from parents & the Borg just for simply being unfortunate to have been born and raised in it.
We speak from experience here!!
I,,we can all relate!!
from reddit.. a summary of changes: .
we are all sinners, so we have to be reasonable how we punish sinners.
if elders and congregation do not quickly help someone come to be reinstated they would be imitating satan the devil, not jehovah (yes that actually is what is said in the tagalog version in translation!
From a legal point,, the August WT was delayed.
What other way would there be?
Legal issues & money,,,, its all about retaining its tax free status.
